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Ritchie9 2:04 Mon Feb 10
smart meters
My electric company keep ringing asking if I want a smart meter installed for my gas and electric, asked a few mates but nobody's got one to offer advice, anyone got one and think they are worth having? do they really save you much on your bills? I have actually smacked my knob on the boiler (but that's enough about the missus) but still cant decide if its worth the effort of getting one installed.

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riosleftsock 2:11 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
You don;t need them.

SecondOpinion 2:14 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
Smart meters don't save you any money. All they do is monitor the usage of your gas and electricity

Iron Duke 2:18 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
The only positive is they save you from going outside the house to read the meters. The one I have has to be plugged in so if you think about it it actually uses more electricity. I hardly use it and only plug it in when I want a meter reading.

Moncurs Putting Iron 2:28 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
Need a SMET2 otherwise it becomes a dumb meter if you regularly swap supplier.

The first generation of smart meters (known as “SMETS1” meters) do not all remain in ‘smart mode’ if you change your energy supplier. So, depending on who you switch to, your smart meter may no longer give automatic meter readings or show you how much you’re spending on the in-home display.


The second generation of smart meters (“SMETS2” meters, which are currently being rolled out by suppliers) should allow households to switch supplier without losing smart functionality.

Manip 2:41 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
If you get one, they will stop ringing you. It saves them money you having one so in the end everyone will have one.

claypole 3:03 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
They're really handy because when you boil the kettle it shows that you are using electricity.

Ritchie9 3:03 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
cheers for the replies, so to sum it up they don't make any difference whatsoever, and probably more trouble than there worth to take a day off work to make sure someones home when they fit it.

terry-h 3:16 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
You should keep 40 feet away from smart meters to avoid radiation according to some experts.
Some people had gas leaks when smart meters were installed by poorly trained contractors.
Government spies know when you are at home.

CONCLUSION
IS IT SAFE?

bruuuno 3:21 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
they’re just gadgets for the sake of gadgets based on the observations of people I know who have them

Mike Oxsaw 3:36 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
"Smart" works both ways. Late paying your bill? That's you cut off with the click of a mouse from their HQ in Berlin.

Need reconnecting? Pay up then convince their call centre in Mumbai that you have done so.

Good luck with that. Get extra blankets in.

Manip 3:47 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
Make sure the display screen goes on sleep mode after a short while as it will just stay on using more electric than you did before having one!

lowermarshhammer 4:09 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
Small notebook
Pencil
Take a regular monthly reading


Or spend £13.4 billion on a nationwide rollout instead?

Thanks ED MILLIBAND and the plums that followed him.

lowermarshhammer 4:10 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
smart meter
smart motorways

What's next?

lowermarshhammer 4:11 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
smart cars? They're shit as well

factory seconds 4:23 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
of course they do.

the amount of infomation that a smart meter can gather from your energy usage habits is worth a bomb to any corporation who can collect that data and sell it on to the highest bidder.

riosleftsock 4:36 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
Mike Oxsaw 3:36 Mon Feb 10

A lot of people have said exactly the same, but looking at how they are connected, it doesn;t seem possible at present.

I think more likely is that it gives the utility companies the ability to enforce different tariff rates at different times.

If you look at the gridwatch site, it has a live display of what % of energy across the grid is provided by what power source (CCGT, nuclear, coal, wind, solar, biomass etc). I reckon the aim is to have low tariffs when the grid is on mainly renewables and higher tariffs when on conventional energy sources.

bruuuno 4:38 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
I don’t think utility companies are allowed to disconnect you for not paying

charleyfarley 4:56 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
Make of this what you will

Smart Meter Health Effects


In nearly every community around the world where wireless smart meters have been installed, a percentage of residents complain of health effects that started after installation. The residents often did not know that smart meters had been installed. The most common symptoms are:

Headaches
Insomnia
Fatigue
Tinnitus
Heart arrhythmia/palpitations
Decreased immune function
Irritability
Decreased cognitive function

Harlow Hammer 5:16 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
I wouldn't since having one installed I have noticed that my bills have increased I imagine they are more accurate then the previous old style meters.

iphammer 5:25 Mon Feb 10
Re: smart meters
If you have one installed you'll just have to hope the engineer knows what he is doing.

The engineer who installed mine seemed to know what he was doing but the engineer who installed my neighbours smart metre ended up blowing the meter up and catching himself on fire.

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